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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | I have started this thread for reporting on the success of the mods to the 380 ECU by comrage Stayer.
Today i posted a fully working 380 ECU to Stayer as a guinea pig to evaluate it.
Will post in this thread all about my experiences.
If successful will offer to members as an exchange service.
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Location: South Australia | What sort of things can he achieve with the Bosch unit? |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | We'll see in about a fortnight. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | RM380 - 4/7/2013 14:49
What sort of things can he achieve with the Bosch unit?
It will be so. I have the following (standard reflash):
1)Disable the rear oxygen sensors. This will allow you to remove cats, install optimized exhaust manifolds. Eliminate errors on oxygen sensors.
2) Programmatically connect the power mode. What is it? This mode is configured factory engineers, but disabled. This is done to implement the environmental standards. However, as ride a horse which has a broken leg?
3) I will remove the speed limit. It cannot be turned off completely, but you can set the limit of 500 km/H.
4) Optimization of fuel injection and ignition advance angle.
5) for more your wishes......
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Location: Russia, Perm | Forgot to add. Usually, after the reflash occurs reduced fuel consumption. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | If this trial is successful I will offer an exchange service for members here.
stayer mentioned that after a reflash the immobiliser is reset...i.e your key doesn't work.
so.....
you send me one of your ignition keys and I match it up to the ecu with the mut3 ...so should just be plug and go.
that's the theory...LOL |
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Location: South Australia | Sounds great, what is the likely price for the complete service? |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Update the theme. I received a parcel from Australia. It was long. I'll start right now.
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Stayer I have given you access to the area of the forum where the service manuals are.
You will find the 380 service manual there.
It has the electrical diagrams in the manual
Find the manual here.......
http://forum.380db.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1307&posts=1&start=1
http://forum.380db.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1307&posts=1&start=1 |
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Location: Russia, Perm | This large amount of information. I found only one page 13A - 645. However, this is not enough (not all contacts). If you know the page with the ECU pinout, let me know. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | It was incredibly frustrating. Factory engineers Mitsubishi refused to cooperate with me. However, there is no such ECU which cannot be reflash. Your ECU contains a separate flash memory.
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Location: Russia, Perm | I had to get the flash memory and chip EEPROM. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | I had to get the flash memory and chip EEPROM.
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Location: Russia, Perm | It took a lot of time.
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Location: Russia, Perm | When I received the information that was very much surprised. Firmware Mitsubishi 380 similar to the American 9G Galant V6.
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Location: Russia, Perm | The biggest challenge is the calculation of the checksum. However, this problem can be solved.
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Location: Russia, Perm | Disabling the rear oxygen sensor, speed limit and turnover limit is not a problem. And Mitsubishi engineers still don't believe. Heh-heh-heh. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Good work so far Stayer.
I look forward to you working it all out. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Stayer, we already had the flash memory dump from our ECU....
Look here...
http://forum.380db.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1269&posts=5&start=1
Is it the same eprom data?
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Location: Russia, Perm | Chip eeprom contains information VIN and an immobilizer. Directly firmware resides in flash memory. At the moment it is very difficult to do reflash. To facilitate the process of reading and writing should ECU pinout. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | The new firmware is connected octane correction. Now the higher the octane number, the higher the return of the engine. If I see the dyno result, it is still possible to make adjustments. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | If I show you fuel and ignition map settings that I need you can put values in...yes? |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Stayer, here is the information you asked for.
The K-line is on the OBD connector pin #7
see photos of complete wiring loom for the entire dashboard below
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Stayer.....Here is where the K-Line from the OBD connector goes to.
It goes to Pin #44 on the big ECU connector exactly as i told you from the schematic.
A few minutes ago I laid out the whole car wiring on the floor and checked with a multi meter.
See for yourself....PIN 44 is the correct one.
John
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Location: Russia, Perm | This is very valuable information, John. Now I finish this project. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | John, I ask you to ring contacts 6 (obd) - ecu. And 14 (obd) - ecu. I have high and low CAN pins ECU. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | I might visit Russia next time I am in Europe.
Do you have nice beer? |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | stayer - 2/9/2013 23:13
John, I ask you to ring contacts 6 (obd) - ecu. And 14 (obd) - ecu. I have high and low CAN pins ECU.
Stayer the language translator is not working.
What do you mean ring? |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Sorry. I meant the way from OBD II to the ECU. It is necessary to ring pin 6(obd) and 14(obd).
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Location: Russia, Perm | This is a high and low CAN. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Administrator - 2/9/2013 18:14
I might visit Russia next time I am in Europe.
Do you have nice beer?
I advise you to hurry up, soon the snow will fall and it is awful. Beer guarantee you... |
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Location: Russia, Perm | I will explain. I do not have car Mitsubishi 380. I have only ECU. I must test the functionality. I don't want you received is not workable ECU. This requires a full scan. Therefore, we must pins high and low CAN to the ECU.
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Stayer...
OBD..........ECU
pins 6 ......64
pins 14......86
see photos.
I like very cold beer, but not frozen.
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Location: Russia, Perm | Ha-ha-ha, let me know how you are thinking in Russia. I you meet the...
Thanks for the scheme. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Do you have everything now?
It is middle of night here, wife is asleep and cold beer is in my hand.... |
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Location: Russia, Perm | until enough, go to bed. |
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Location: Brisbane,qld | wow , this is interesting stuff, even thought i wouldnt know what the hell you guys are on about ...lol |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | wsbtt - 3/9/2013 19:32
wow , this is interesting stuff, even thought i wouldnt know what the hell you guys are on about ...lol
Stayer wanted confirmation of three pins from the OBD connector to the main plug on the ECU....K-line and can bus read/write lines
I layed the whole car loom on the floor and metered it out.
Behind the scenes I sent him a 380 ECU in Russia to crack it.
It looks like he is succeeding. |
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Location: Brisbane,qld | Thats awesome , will keep my eye on this thread |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Yes, I did. Now the problem is financial issues and future plans. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Tell me guys, and that no one really reads and writes ECU 380 ? Actually there are 3 ways to obtain and record information from the ECU. Or is it not necessary to anybody? I do not understand it. |
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Location: South Australia | What's the latest news regarding Stayer's mods to the factory ECU? |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | RM380 - 21/10/2013 09:55
What's the latest news regarding Stayer's mods to the factory ECU?
I sent a 380 ecu to stayer, he has sent it back to me by post...it takes weeks unless we want to pay DHL rates.
I will see how difficult the whole process will be.
The main issue is programming the keys after the mods are done and how to coordinate it.
This is because the factory keys only work with the factory ecu....so you cant use other peoples' ecu's in a rotation.
Most wouldn't want to be without an ecu for a month now would they? |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Working with ECU long finished. However, the pushing back and forth does not make sense. This very long. I worked out a way to read and write on the spot. This does not require keys electronic immobilizer or work from a dealer. However, I can't provide you with the equipment. John aware of all the problems. I think in the near future this question will be solved. Wait a little. |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Administrator - 21/10/2013 07:23
The main issue is programming the keys after the mods are done and how to coordinate it.
This is because the factory keys only work with the factory ecu....so you cant use other peoples' ecu's in a rotation.
This is not so. If you do reflash on the spot, do not require any codes, keys and other. You write ECU new software, but the chipset eeprom verification codes. The car will work. You're not changing the ecu. New software to write vehicle ecu, all codes old. After writing, the car runs on the new software.
Problems about which you write, arise when replacing the ecu. Immobilizer checks codes to run. But immobilizer not affect the software. If the ecu from the other vehicle, the launch will not take place. This is a precaution against theft. |
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Location: An island off southern Tasmania. | Like Stayer says...if we wait a while and problems will be solved. |
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Location: Brisbane,qld | Would be worth waiting for i must say |
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Location: Russia, Perm | Transition to another topic. http://380db.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1602&posts=8#M15900 |
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