Engine knock
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Posted 2/5/2013 18:29 (#15129)
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Have this knock in the engine , happened when the catalytic converters fell apart in the manifolds and blocked the exhaust whilst i was driving, ended up driving in the gutter doing 20 ks with this huge loud hissing noise like a continuous blow off valve and the engine started to heat up but didn't boil, was only about 3 ks from home, does this sound familiar to anyone


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Posted 4/5/2013 19:01 (#15130 - in reply to #15129)
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Booked her in next week at a mitsi dealer , still under warranty, just thought somebody might know if it was top or bottom end noise
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Posted 4/5/2013 21:49 (#15131 - in reply to #15129)
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I hope I am wrong...but...

I think it's rod knock.
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Posted 7/5/2013 07:16 (#15134 - in reply to #15131)
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Lets hope it's a simple fix
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Posted 9/5/2013 18:24 (#15147 - in reply to #15134)
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The sound is identical to what my GT sounded like when it spun a bearing under warranty.

It will be the main bearing bolts in either cyl3 or cyl5 have stretched.

Mine was caused by very hard cornering and a conseqent interruption to oil flow.

The oil light flickered very quickly and it was all over...the next few days it just got louder and louder.

They took 3 weeks to fix it under warranty cause they fit a short motor for warranty now.

Or...it was detonation due to the lousy 7th injector setup from Sprintex.
The result will be the same...spun bearing in 3 or 5 cylinder.


Long term solution is get ARP bolt kit, and plug up 7th injector , ditch SMT6 ecu and fit a LInk G4 extreme like my VRX has.
With 6 660cc injectors of course

About $2k after motor is replaced, car will pull a good 20kw atw more as well.

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Posted 10/5/2013 00:04 (#15148 - in reply to #15147)
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Is that the reason for using the 74 sump ,to combat that problem, yeah took the car in today when i picked it up they said what i thought theyd say,( didnt find anything ,just a loose exhaust bracket) WHAT THE!! So the engine is good hey? , yep they said ,OK!! so off i go ,start her up , nock nock HELLO!! Went back in an basically had to hold their hand and show them how to check for a knock ,yeah and so they agreed it had bottomend issues so new bottom end for me ,yay!! third time lucky
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Posted 16/5/2013 23:13 (#15168 - in reply to #15148)
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mate...no new bottom end...
you will be getting a new short motor, if you plan on keeping it give me a call.

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Posted 20/5/2013 10:08 (#15179 - in reply to #15168)
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Do you know something i don't, have'nt heard from them yet concerning how and when they are doing it
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Posted 20/5/2013 12:31 (#15180 - in reply to #15179)
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wsbtt - 20/5/2013 10:08

Do you know something i don't, have'nt heard from them yet concerning how and when they are doing it


Nah no secrets...just if you were keeping it I would improve the 7th injector fuelling system.

(I noticed you are selling it)
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Posted 20/5/2013 13:02 (#15181 - in reply to #15129)
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Oh mate wish i was keeping it but priorities you know,had lots of interest and lots of offers $13k ,$18,$23 , the best was $25 k still concidering that ,we'll see what happens
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Posted 20/5/2013 15:01 (#15182 - in reply to #15129)
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25k with a new engine seems pretty low.
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Posted 20/5/2013 15:15 (#15183 - in reply to #15129)
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ive got at $27 k at the momment dont want to go any lower ,everybody is comparing it to the redbook price which is around $21k when only last year it was $27500 Nrma insurance would only insure it for $19k, went elseware of corse
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Posted 28/5/2013 21:57 (#15196 - in reply to #15183)
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shes gone in for a week to get it sorted, will let ya know what the outcome is
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Posted 28/5/2013 22:46 (#15197 - in reply to #15129)
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I'll bet you a 6 pack its a short motor warranty.

check the oil before you leave...look under the bonnet to make sure every nut bolt clip and bracket is on where it should be.


dont tolerate scratches anywhere!
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Posted 5/6/2013 18:58 (#15224 - in reply to #15129)
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Talked to mitsi dealer today ,they're waiting for the ok from head office to do a full rebuild and they're telling me it could take up to four working weeks...........mmm
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Posted 5/6/2013 19:05 (#15225 - in reply to #15224)
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wsbtt - 5/6/2013 18:58

Talked to mitsi dealer today ,they're waiting for the ok from head office to do a full rebuild and they're telling me it could take up to four working weeks...........mmm



yep...a short motor coming up.

I told Peter West at TMR that #16 had crapped itself.

No reply yet (2 weeks).

Definitely needs a Link ECU and uprated injectors...will do mine I think.
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Posted 6/6/2013 09:51 (#15233 - in reply to #15129)
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Be nice if they threw that setup on under warranty
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Posted 6/6/2013 10:53 (#15234 - in reply to #15233)
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Oops , doubled up
Anyway, and maybe even throw in a set of ARP bolts, theres only 20 cars to fit out

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Posted 20/6/2013 20:39 (#15267 - in reply to #15129)
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Update; Talked to the dealer today, they have recieved the new crank and are waiting delivery of the bearings....HUH, Dont understand why its dragging out, thought they would just get a reco short motor and BAM!! wack it in and get it out NEXT!! maybe its cheaper doing it this way, i almost forget what the car looks like
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Posted 20/6/2013 23:51 (#15269 - in reply to #15129)
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Yep...the crank got chewed out and the bore etc is still fine of course.
It will only take a few hours to change the crank etc won't even need to take the heads off.

Sounds like a smart way to do it.
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Posted 21/6/2013 06:46 (#15272 - in reply to #15269)
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Yeah good idea, i thought that...lol
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Posted 28/6/2013 18:40 (#15309 - in reply to #15129)
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Update; still waiting for bearings from Japan.......yawn
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Posted 28/6/2013 20:28 (#15310 - in reply to #15309)
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wsbtt - 28/6/2013 18:40

Update; still waiting for bearings from Japan.......yawn



I can get you some if you get stuck
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Posted 28/6/2013 20:54 (#15311 - in reply to #15310)
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Thanks ,will see what happens
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Posted 11/7/2013 19:57 (#15394 - in reply to #15311)
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Finally got her back, was a worn bearing journal and crank, now shes fully sick
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Posted 12/7/2013 13:28 (#15397 - in reply to #15129)
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Take her out and show her who's the boss.

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Posted 12/7/2013 13:31 (#15400 - in reply to #15397)
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Will do...lol
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Posted 23/7/2013 22:08 (#15432 - in reply to #15129)
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Have'nt really had the chance to take her out until today and i got a surprise, Knock knock, that sound i have heard before but sounds worse, now im a wee bit pissed, also found the headlights pointing to the ground and a wee couple of touched up scratches on the front bumper...mmmmmm
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Posted 23/7/2013 23:30 (#15433 - in reply to #15129)
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Take it back and give them a good piece of your mind.
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Posted 1/8/2013 18:12 (#15439 - in reply to #15433)
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Update, well they've told me its a secondary noise, piston slap, (their exact words) so , her we go again, they have to get the nod from head office then they will let me know, hopefully tomorrow
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Posted 1/8/2013 19:57 (#15440 - in reply to #15129)
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thats a new short motor
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Posted 1/8/2013 20:06 (#15441 - in reply to #15440)
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I bloody hope so, if they take the route they took before , could be another 7 weeks, fingers crossed
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Posted 1/8/2013 21:34 (#15442 - in reply to #15129)
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tell them you want a loan car...you are entitled to it by consumer law
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Posted 12/10/2013 19:54 (#15783 - in reply to #15129)
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After all the crap i went through, shes just like new and im keeping her, just thought id post a happy ending
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Posted 13/10/2013 11:43 (#15786 - in reply to #15129)
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thank christ for that...was getting lonely in here...hehehe
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Posted 13/10/2013 12:08 (#15788 - in reply to #15786)
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Yeah i was just wondering where all the other TMR owners were
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Posted 13/10/2013 17:08 (#15789 - in reply to #15129)
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Can I suggest a Link storm ECU with no 7th injector, 6 bigger injectors instead?

Absolutely sensational difference on my manual 380....200kw atw is pretty damn quick mate....and stock internals.

About 2500 bucks I reckon...3k worst case (will give you the plug and play tune for it so all the hard work is done.)

there is a link dealer in Brisbane from memory....
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Posted 13/10/2013 18:34 (#15793 - in reply to #15789)
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Can I suggest a Link storm ECU with no 7th injector, 6 bigger injectors instead?

Absolutely sensational difference on my manual 380....200kw atw is pretty damn quick mate....and stock internals.

About 2500 bucks I reckon...3k worst case (will give you the plug and play tune for it so all the hard work is done.)

there is a link dealer in Brisbane from memory....

You can suggest it, but running that by the missus is the issue, i want to do it but she doesnt understand why i need to do it and if it means it will go faster thats a definate no!!,ive still got to rebuild the 6G75 for the magna,cause the 74 is pretty thirsty and thats s the part she understands,ill put it on the list
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Posted 13/10/2013 22:39 (#15795 - in reply to #15129)
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At least you know it can be done....
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